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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 2, 2022.

EE UU

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep. Withdrawn by nominator (non-admin closure) Rubbish computer Ping me or leave a message on my talk page 14:37, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Very unlikely redirect Rubbish computer Ping me or leave a message on my talk page 23:28, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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War against

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The result of the discussion was retarget to War as metaphor (restoring previous target). (non-admin closure) -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 02:22, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Previously targeted war as metaphor. Unsure what target would fit Rubbish computer Ping me or leave a message on my talk page 21:21, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hot warfare

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 10#Hot warfare

Hot war

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 10#Hot war

Godea, Ioan

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request undeletion of these articles. -- Aervanath (talk) 02:56, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
rest of the list (57 others)

While reviewing Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 December 29#Slovaks in Hungary (Giurtelecu Șimleului), I noticed an excessive amount of redirects to this target. Here are a list of people(?) that I have verified are not mentioned at the target article. -- Tavix (talk) 21:05, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Propanium

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request undeletion of these articles. -- Aervanath (talk) 02:55, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at target. Listed (and linked) at Onium ion#Group 14 (carbon group) onium cations, but that also contains a number of redlinks, making a case for deletion to encourage article creation. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
20:59, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Mile road system

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The result of the discussion was setindexify at Mile road system with no prejudice against any of the four potential next steps described by Uanfala. And with thanks to Elli for drafting the SIA after two months of this kicking around. (non-admin closure) -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 03:20, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This should be retargeted to Mile Road System (Michigan) as that has more details on the topic and is more generalized than the Mile road system specifically around Detroit. snood1205(Say Hi! (talk)) 02:37, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone remains free to create an article about the general concept at the lowercase title, but article creation can't be the outcome of an RfD discussion. Perhaps a WP:SETINDEX at Mile road system could be an appropriate alternative to a disambiguation page? Someone would need to draft one below the redirect content for us to consider. Mdewman6 (talk) 19:35, 7 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: A Set Index Page could help.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 04:39, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 07:27, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • The easiest solution is to create a short SIA: just list the Michigan- and Cincinnati-related articles with bullet points and then slap {{sia}} at the end. This would be a perfectly acceptable solution until someone decides to commit more effort to the topic. If they do, then I can see several options: 1) writing a brand new article; 2) reworking the brief paragraph on the topic at Street or road name#Grid-based naming systems and retargeting there; 3)responding to the previously expressed concerns about the notability of the Michigan article by moving it to the base name and rewriting it to be about the general topic; 4) responding to #3 by nominating at AfD. – Uanfala (talk) 22:50, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: There are a couple similar redirects to the target that should follow whatever happens here, so I'm bundling them in. Also, a draft of a potential Broad-concept article/index/disambiguation would be helpful for those wanting closure in that direction.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix (talk) 17:48, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Los Angeles County John Doe (1968)

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Aervanath (talk) 02:54, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect should be deleted because it is an unlikely search term and the content has been removed from the article due to the lack of secondary and tertiary sources. Further, the naming itself is problematic as there are dozens of John Does from Los Angeles County from the year 1968 (none of which are notable or have coverage outside law enforcement databases or other similar primary sources that lack independence). 4meter4 (talk) 17:32, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The Carpet (comedy episode)

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 00:38, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please delete as page has been moved from this for consistency and this original page is not suitable as could cause more confusion86.10.25.197 (talk) 16:27, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Issue of incoming links has been sorted 86.10.25.197 (talk) 09:21, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Indelible mark

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 10#Indelible mark

Custom (in Canon Law)

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 10#Custom (in Canon Law)

Interstate 390 (Genesee Expressway)

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 10#Interstate 390 (Genesee Expressway)

Interstate 43 (Milwaukee)

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 10#Interstate 43 (Milwaukee)

Category:Wikipedians who put really really long redlinked categories at the bottom of their userpage as a conversation piece

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 10#Category:Wikipedians who put really really long redlinked categories at the bottom of their userpage as a conversation piece

Brandywine Trail

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 11#Brandywine Trail

Nonstop sql

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 05:45, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely capitalization: Only link was from Comparison of relational database management systems, which for some reason was a pipelink capitalized exactly like this title (capital N only) despite the visible wording being properly capitalized instead; I corrected it. No evidence of all-lower-case being common now or in the past. Closeapple (talk) 03:08, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Kypris

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 9#Kypris

East Orthodox

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 05:45, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Very unlikely to be typed, and it is never used to refer to the Eastern Orthodox Church or any church in fact.
I recommend deletion. Veverve (talk) 02:17, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Orthodox Church of Byzantium

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 9#Orthodox Church of Byzantium

Orthodox civilization

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 9#Orthodox civilization

Bishop in the Eastern Orthodox Church

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Bishop#Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox and Anglican churches. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 05:44, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect should target Bishop#Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox and Anglican churches, but the content of the redirect was merged into another article (the target) which now does not have the content this redirect mentions anymore. Veverve (talk) 02:01, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support: Makes sense to change targets. GenQuest "scribble" 03:15, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Eastern Orthodox opposition to the doctrine of Papal Primacy

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 05:43, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Papal primacy and papal supremacy are two different things, so the redirect is misleading; unless you only take the Catholic point of view (Catholics interpret papal supremacy as being papal primacy). Eastern Orthodoxy has no opposition to papal primacy, only to papal supremacy.
I recommend deletion. Veverve (talk) 01:54, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Eastern theology

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay (talk) 06:14, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not every theology is Eastern Orthodox. There is Islamic theology, Eastern Catholic, Oriental Orthodox theology, possibly Greco-Roman mysteries, and probably others.
I recommend deletion, as the redirect is too broad to make anything of it. Veverve (talk) 01:50, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Fundamental theory (canon law)

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 9#Fundamental theory (canon law)

Medicine and Canon Law

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay (talk) 06:12, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No mention of the subject at the target. Moreover, "Canon Law" refers to Canon law in general and not only to the Catholic canon law.
I recommend deletion. Veverve (talk) 01:35, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Christian - Catholic

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Catholic (disambiguation)#Christian denominations. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 05:43, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Strange redirect, very unlikely to be used. It may have been created by mistake. Veverve (talk) 01:29, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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New Catechism

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 9#New Catechism

Jonah (song)

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The result of the discussion was procedural close. Per Lennart97, a partially-disambiguated title should not redirect to a fully-disambiguated one, but rather the other way around, so the correct venue here is RM. (non-admin closure) -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 08:14, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to me, based on notability and reliable sourcing, that WP:PLA would have us retarget this to Jonah (Kanye West song). It seems very unlikely that any reader would be looking for disambiguation page about the word "Jonah" when searching for "Johan (song)." There's only one other song and it's from 1987 and it has been averaging less than 10 views/day for over a decade now. ––FormalDude talk 23:42, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Quad-Ominos

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Triominoes#Variants. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 01:34, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects to a large list of products without any explanation. Triominoes#Variants seems to be a more helpful target. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
14:37, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Fleet (Republic of Singapore Navy)

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 11#Fleet (Republic of Singapore Navy)

Old Roman Catholic

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The result of the discussion was Procedural close. Withdrawn by nominator, who converted the redirect into a DAB page. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 01:32, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This expression is never used to refer to Old Catholics. It is used, however, by some micro-denominations such as here, here, and Old Roman Catholic Church in North America.
I recommend deletion, as this term is never used to refer to the Old Catholic movement. Veverve (talk) 00:14, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

DAB at Old Roman Catholic done. Veverve (talk) 19:10, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Independent Catholic Church USA

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Breakaway Catholics

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request undeletion of these articles. -- Aervanath (talk) 02:22, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The article Independent Catholicism does not list all Catholic denominations which self-identify as Catholic yet are not in full communion with the Holy See. List of Independent Catholic denominations only lists denominations which are considered to be Independent Catholic, which is defined in the article with sources as " 'micro-churches claiming apostolic succession and valid sacraments', in spite of not being affiliated to the historic Catholic churches such as the Roman Catholic and Utrechter Old Catholic churches." Denominations such as the Union of Utrecht, the Mariavite Church, or the Union of Scranton, are Old Catholic - so not in communion with the Holy See - without being Independent Catholic.
Also, the term "breakaway" is quite pejorative and biased (WP:R#DELETE n. 3).
I recommend deletion. Veverve (talk) 00:00, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Reformed Catholic Church (Old Catholic)

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. -- Aervanath (talk) 02:22, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No mention of this denomination on the target article anymore. The denomination does not match the WP:NCHURCH criteria so an article should not be recreated.
I recommend deletion. Veverve (talk) 00:00, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: This was quite a big article, and user Bistropha made it a redirect with comment Merge to Independent Catholic Churches; no reliable independent sources found that actually discuss this church, but I don't see Bistropha performing a merge to any article, or there being a merge discussion. Jay (talk) 05:54, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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